Is this guy on to something or just a sick fu...

[imported_Dj_Pseudonym]

Sun 25 Jan 2004

Government adviser: killing children with defects acceptable

NICHOLAS CHRISTIAN


A GOVERNMENT adviser on genetics has sparked fury by suggesting it might be acceptable to destroy children with ‘defects’ soon after they are born.

John Harris, a member of the Human Genetics Commission, told a meeting at Westminster he did not see any distinction between aborting a fully grown unborn baby at 40 weeks and killing a child after it had been born.

Harris, who is a professor of bioethics at Manchester University, would not be drawn on which defects or problems might be used as grounds for ending a baby’s life, or how old a child might be while it could still be destroyed.

Harris was reported to have said that he did not believe that killing a child was always inexcusable.

In addition, it was claimed that he did not believe that there was any ‘moral change’ that occurred between when the baby was in the womb and when it had been brought into the world.



He did not say how old a child might be while it could still be destroyed


Harris, who also gives advice to doctors as a member of the ethics committee of the British Medical Association (BMA), is understood to have argued that there was no moral distinction between aborting a foetus found by tests to have defects and disposing of a child where the parents discovered the problems at birth.

The words drew a furious response from anti-abortion campaigners. The Pro-Life lobby group, who had members present at the meeting, noted what Harris had said and condemned his words.

Julia Millington, the group’s spokeswoman, said: "It is frightening to think that university students are being educated by somebody who endorses the killing of new-born babies, and equally worrying to discover that such a person is the establishment’s ‘preferred’ bioethicist."

However, Michael Wilkes, the chairman of the BMA’s ethics committee, claimed that Harris was simply trying to encourage debate and consistent thinking.

He said: "There are many who might concur that there is no difference between a full-term foetus and a new-born baby, although the majority would see there is a substantial difference. Abortion is legal, but termination after birth is killing."

In the past, Harris has spoken of the need to allow people to buy and sell human organs as a means of increasing supplies for transplant operations.

He also recently expressed support for the sex selection of babies for social reasons.

He said: "If it isn’t wrong to wish for a bonny bouncing baby girl, why would it be wrong to make use of technology to play fairy godmother?"
You decide
-P$E

[Blatant]

i agree with this john harris guy

some people dont have the balls to bring up such a thing, or admit that they think it

[Interest]

Well, if you think about how fast our population is growing, what if there were a mass amount of children born with birth defects that ended up taking over the world with their deformities.

[Interest]

Run for the Hills! The genetically inferior children are coming!

[substance]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Interest:
Well, if you think about how fast our population is growing, what if there were a mass amount of children born with birth defects that ended up taking over the world with their deformities.<hr></blockquote>


Isn't that like xmen....

Substance

[NaSp]

That's f-ing sad. I would never KILL my first born son or daughter cause their was something wrong with them. That's just wrong & i bet after you witnessed yer child being born you'd changer yer mind .. Unless yer just that cold hearted ...

[Mr. Grouchface]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by NaSp:
That's f-ing sad. I would never KILL my first born son or daughter cause their was something wrong with them. That's just wrong & i bet after you witnessed yer child being born you'd changer yer mind .. Unless yer just that cold hearted ...<hr></blockquote>

I don't know if I'd kill em... But if I had a mentally retarded kid from birth, I'd definitely consider puttin up for adoption... Or atleast let my boys pittbull go around or two with it.

[naturalelement]

i cldn't even read the whole article. my lord, ya'll who thnk ths is acceptable have very questionable morals. ppl w/ disabilities can stll FULLY FUNCTION IN SOCIETY...thy need to be taught diffrntly, is tht sucha bad thng?? or evn a difficult thng. overpopulation..trya condom or abstinence damnit. fuk outta here w/ ths stupid sht. :mad:

[Blatant]

gimme a fuckin break

people need to shut the fuck up with thier morals, what they think is right and wrong, and start thinkin about what is good for the well being of the people and society.

morals are not a reality, stop acting like what you think is actuallity.

i could say the same moral bullshit about how fucked up it is to force someone for the rest of their lives take care of a retard.

or to allow a person to live as a retard.

so basicly, your sayin you wouldnt mind bein retarded or raising a retard.

[ January 28, 2004: Message edited by: Blatant ]</p>

[PhilipMorehits]

Alot of people with down syndrome go on to do great things...look at Corky Thatcher

[Interest]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Blatant:

morals are not a reality, stop acting like what you think is actuallity.


<hr></blockquote>


As much as I don't want to, I really agree with this. This is some straight up shit.

[naturalelement]

blatant, i fukn can't believe u. all the ppl i work w/ tht r developmentally disabled are JUST AS FUKN HAPPY AND GRATEFUL TO BE ALIVE AS U. ths is some of the most ignorant shit i have evr heard man. who are you to judge life? give me a break. i'm happy tht i was born relatively healthy and if my child was born w/ something, i'd stll love and take care of it. so yea, i'ma question the morals of ppl who wld jst as soon kill off anythng diffrnt thn oneslf. sad, sad, sad, sad.....

[Blatant]

i hope you have many a retarded babies

[naturalelement]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Blatant:
i hope you have many a retarded babies<hr></blockquote>

i hope u get a fukn clue.

[Blatant]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by naturalelement:


i hope u get a fukn clue.<hr></blockquote>


right back at ya

[naturalelement]

ohh yea blatant...and wht cluewld tht be? hmmm shld i get the clue tht it's alrght to kill off human beings. shld i get the clue tht ppl w/ disabilities shldn't be allowed to live simply because thy look diffrnt, communicate diffrnt or learn diffrntly??? come on dude, please fill me in on wht i'm missing. cause i jst am not gettn how sayin it's WRONG to kill off ppl is questionable?? plz inlightn me smarty. crist, u readn some nazi bullsht lately or wht?

[Blatant]

retards dont simply look different and learn different. their brain works differently than a normal persons. a 30 year old retard is about as helpful and productive as a 8 year old. making one work is like running a sweatshop, lettin one live off of tax dollors is even worse. unlike someone on wellfare a retard has no chance of ever gettin on their feet and becoming a contributing member of society, and live out their days as a drain on all of those around them.

the reason you think my morals are questionable is becuase you cant stand to think a different way. its kinda like during vietnam, americans thought of the vietcongs to be savage horrible immoral people becuase they would send children in straped with bombs. the reason they were viewed that way is becuase most westerners dont understand that, and the reason for that is becuase we value life, whereas people of the east value life AND death. similar to suicide bombers of the present day.

so you see, all it takes is a different perception. to understand things differently.

the way i see it, by letting a retard die at birth you are saving it from a life of horror and regret for both the parents of the retard and the retard its self.

so whos morals are REALLY questionable. it seems to me it would be someone who is afraid of death, loves life and would rather cling to something that is broken rather then let it go.

[ January 29, 2004: Message edited by: Blatant ]</p>

[naturalelement]

ARE U CRAZY...SHT I'M BEGINNING TO WONDR IF UR NOT RETARDD.

come in2 my office honey, i'll teach ya bout ppl w/ dvlpmntl disabilities. thn u won't sound like the one operatin w/ half a brain. ppl on ths board nevr seem to surprise me w/ the extent of their ignorance.

and as far as morals go...ths is all i'm sayn on ths topic anymore....killin off livin humans because thy are born w/ some sort of disability is morally questionable. bottom line. an if ur worried bout society...start w/ the REAL PROBS. gawd, i cld jst puke.

[Blatant]

i dont need to go to your office to meet retards, i can simply have a convo with you on here, and i have a first hand experience

in case you didnt already get my point, morals arent real, i dont really have any or need any. so i guess my non-exsistent morals are questionable.

the fact that i dont agree with you, doesnt make me ignorant, sorry, nice try though.

[naturalelement]

ur rght, jst cause u wanna kill ppl off for some jackoff reason...or jst cause ur a major asshole, whtevr it is...i guess tht doesn't mean ur nonexistnt morals (who doesn't have morals...mayb b4 judging wht othr ppl shld/shldn't do, u shld figure out wht's goin on w/ u)shld b questiond by me....whatevr man. i dn't wanna tlk anymore bout ths...it's just pissin me off and ur not worth it. it's obvious ur elitest attitude has gottn the best of ur human rationale.

[imported_Dj_Pseudonym]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Blatant:

in case you didnt already get my point, morals arent real, i dont really have any or need any. <hr></blockquote>

I don't agree w/killing retards, but ol' boy is on to something here.
graemlins/peace.gif
-PSE

[naturalelement]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Pseudonym:


I don't agree w/killing retards, but ol' boy is on to something here.
graemlins/peace.gif
-PSE<hr></blockquote>

how...how is sayin tht u dn't have any morals or need any a good thng?? it doesn't make sense. yes, i agree tht ppl cannot be expectd to share the same ones, but to say tht thy dn't have any @ all. BULL SHIT.

[Blatant]

when did i say i wanted to kill people?

yeah, i wanna have a retarded baby so i can kill it. thats what i been tryin to say the whole time.

nobody really "has" morals, they dont exsist in reality, only in your mind.

the mind produces many things that arent real, such as emotions and desires.

i know your pissed, becuase you cant handle thinking opposite, or different than you already do, and since your pissed you've also become unable to listen to what i say and just take everything to the extreme.

instead tryin to understand things from another perspective you just immediately jump to the conclusion that im some sick fuck that wants to kill people, like i wanna strangle a downs baby or some shit.

but yet i havent said anything that suggests that i want to do any such thing. really, i just think like abortion people should have a choice. sometimes things cant be detected in the womb.

you'll probly read that as me sayin i wanna smash a retarded babys head on a table.

if you dont wanna talk about it, thats fine nobodys forcing you to read and respond.

by the way, your the one talking about the ignorance on this board, whos the elitest? i dont really think its me.

[ January 30, 2004: Message edited by: Blatant ]</p>

[naturalelement]

no dude, i'm fully readn wht u have writtn. i have a very open mind and will listn, tolerate and sometimes evn readjust my opinions. but u sayn it's ok to knock off kids who are born w/ d.d.'s is wht i have a problem w/...nevr said tht u wantd to hold down babies and strangle thm..no no nevr evr said tht. i said tht i had to wondr about a person who wld thnk of doin such a thng to anothr human being..regardlss....an i'm fully "wonderin" bout u. ok? can we drop it now. i dn't thnk it's right to kill off ppl who can and do fully function and contribute to our society...u do. case closed. fukn a.

choice is fine, i agree w/ tht. but dn't u thnk money cld b bettr spent on education, health care, etc as opposd to R & Din procedures such as ths?? jst like the parents who r now choosin their kids sex....bttr ways to use tht money. aids, cancer, the fukn common cold anyone, anyone????

plz explain to me how i'ma elitest, please please. cause i'd love to see the bullsht u cld come up with.

[ January 30, 2004: Message edited by: naturalelement ]</p>

[Jimmy2times]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by ScatterBrains:
Alot of people with down syndrome go on to do great things...look at Corky Thatcher<hr></blockquote>

whoa..dood..dood, his name is chris burke dood.

believe or not, ive met him, and he's a surly bastard.

[4D's]

If I had a retarded kid, I don't think Id want it.

Is that horrible? Or does anyone agree with me?

[Chuck U]

Welcome to Gatticca.

[Blatant]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by naturalelement:
choice is fine, i agree w/ tht. but dn't u thnk money cld b bettr spent on education, health care, etc as opposd to R & Din procedures such as ths?? jst like the parents who r now choosin their kids sex....bttr ways to use tht money. aids, cancer, the fukn common cold anyone, anyone????

plz explain to me how i'ma elitest, please please. cause i'd love to see the bullsht u cld come up with.

[ January 30, 2004: Message edited by: naturalelement ]<hr></blockquote>


you could argue all day what money is 'better' spent on.

choosing your kids sex and and all that shit, is goin a bit far. shit if people wanna do it though that should be up to them.

but yeah, i just think people should have a choice. no one should be forced to give up a baby, and nobody should be forced to keep one that is retarded or something. its kinda like with a really sick dog, you dont just let it live and suffer until its dead, you put it down.

sure a retarded can still be healthy and retarded, but until your actually a parent of a retarded child you have no idea how hard that shit can be. i've met people who had retarded kids, of course they loved their child, but that shit is unbelievably hard and painfull. not everyone is capable of doing it.

[naturalelement]

as w/ evrythng in life thr is no guarantee. sometimes u get dealt a hand man.

i dn't live w/ ppl who have devlpmntl disabilities, but i work 50-60+ hrs a week w/ thm AND volunteer. so believe me, i have a pretty good idea. taught diffrntly, communicatd w/ diffrntly, lifestyle...diffrnt. but all adaptable. u cn't jst go round "puttin thngs down" cause thy dn't fit in ur perfect wrld.

plain an simple, if u cn't love it, u shldn't have it...u certainly dn't deserve it.

do u see thm smile? do u see thm laugh? have u evr embrassed a mntally/behaviorally chllngd individual?? if yes, thn u shld know tht thy deserve life jst as mch as u do.

[Blatant]

yeah, thats all good and dandy

but like i said, some people arent capable of such things. some people cant even raise a normal kid, how they gonna raise a handicaped one?

like you said, its not a perfect world. some things that dont seem like the 'right' thing are in a way the 'right' thing in some cases.

not everything is absoulte, there are gray areas in all parts of life, we have to understand that and treat life accordingly

[ January 31, 2004: Message edited by: Blatant ]</p>

[Jimmy2times]

so did anybody hear chris burke's rap album?

[marktripper]

i just downloaded the song "eating is fun, eating is serious"

graemlins/lol.gif

[juliegotruined]

That would just be another form of genocide. It's not really up to humans to decide who lives and who doesn't. No human being is perfect, we all have defects. If anyone would seriously consider killing their own child because of a disability, they shouldn't be having children to begin with.

[PhilipMorehits]

What are we arguing? It should be ok to kill a down syndrome baby shortly after birth? Crazy...where would it stop? Should we also have the right to terminate the life of a baby cause it's the wrong sex, the wrong size, has webbed toes, not cute enough? Does this politician only support this idea under circumstances involving retardation?

jus curious

[Interest]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by julie got ruined:
It's not really up to humans to decide who lives and who doesn't. No human being is perfect<hr></blockquote>

That's why cyborgs like myself will make those decisions. I've been government programmed.

[Blatant]

anything thats not good enough for this perfect world, yes it should be killed.

[naturalelement]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Blatant:
anything thats not good enough for this perfect world, yes it should be killed.<hr></blockquote>

perfct wrld, wht the hell color is the sky in ur wrld kiddo? guess u shld take urslf out, considring...

[substance]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by naturalelement:


perfct wrld, wht the hell color is the sky in ur wrld kiddo? guess u shld take urslf out, considring...<hr></blockquote>


One might want to recognise sarcasm.....

Creamy

[Blatant]

word

ever think what a perfect world would be like if it wasnt perfect?

for instance retarded babies being born.

i sometimes feel like everything i say goes right over everybodys head. im glad that isnt always the case.

[ February 02, 2004: Message edited by: Blatant ]</p>

[naturalelement]

frst, subs, spell much? ooohhh jaybeeish, hahahaa.

blatant, i guess, aftr all the b.s. u spewd on here, i wasn't sure wht was real or wht was sarcasm. imagine tht...on a msg board...nvr....

[Jordon]

I'm not going to pick a side here, but I'd like to throw out my opinion:

Blatant is not ready to have a child. I hope he/she doesn't have one before he/she can learn to respect a human being. The thought of terminating a baby because it didn't turn out as you had hoped (i.e. mentally handicapped) is disgusting. I'm not 100% against you though Blatant, I understand what you're saying and I think you had a valid point or two mixed in there, but I don't think you get it all.
It seems as if you would terminate the baby out of pity for it, rather than spite. But does that mean you wouldn't want an ugly baby because it's going to have a rough life? What about a blind baby because it won't be able to contribute much to society? There's losers out there everyday day that don't contribute much or anything to society; should we kill them?
Nobody asks to have a retarded baby, but it happens. I know I've thought about it before, and been scared that I might one day have one. See, I'm not fond of the idea either, but I don't agree with the choice (should I have a mentally handicapped baby) to "scrap it" and try again.
I feel like until you're ready for the consequences, WHATEVER THEY MAY BE you're not ready to have a child. If you're not going to love your baby, however it turns out, then you're not ready to make a baby.

[Blatant]

lemme put it this way, i'd disown any baby that didnt meet my standards of what he(i wont tollerate having to raise a female) should be.

[naturalelement]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Hi-Five:
I'm not going to pick a side here, but I'd like to throw out my opinion:

Blatant is not ready to have a child. I hope he/she doesn't have one before he/she can learn to respect a human being. The thought of terminating a baby because it didn't turn out as you had hoped (i.e. mentally handicapped) is disgusting. I'm not 100% against you though Blatant, I understand what you're saying and I think you had a valid point or two mixed in there, but I don't think you get it all.
It seems as if you would terminate the baby out of pity for it, rather than spite. But does that mean you wouldn't want an ugly baby because it's going to have a rough life? What about a blind baby because it won't be able to contribute much to society? There's losers out there everyday day that don't contribute much or anything to society; should we kill them?
Nobody asks to have a retarded baby, but it happens. I know I've thought about it before, and been scared that I might one day have one. See, I'm not fond of the idea either, but I don't agree with the choice (should I have a mentally handicapped baby) to "scrap it" and try again.
I feel like until you're ready for the consequences, WHATEVER THEY MAY BE you're not ready to have a child. If you're not going to love your baby, however it turns out, then you're not ready to make a baby.<hr></blockquote>


rght on. evryone has these hopes and aspirations for thr future, but as we knw it's unpredictable and we have to adjust and thrive. no one is worthless. many thngs have been accomplishd by the least likely candidates. it's all bout the desire and drive. ur life it wht u make it, regardless. evry1 faces setbcks, it's wht u do w/ life. not wht life does w/ u.

[Jordon]

I know you're being sarcastic, fukko, I just don't know how sarcastic. But if you can muster up a serious response in your "oh, so hilarious" brain, then maybe we further discuss. :rolleyes:

[Blatant]

oh what, you want me deffend myself and reply to your oh so original theory that im not ready to have a child and dont understand life and human beings and all that nonsense?

[Jordon]

naturalelement,
easy, easy...
I said I WASN'T taking sides... graemlins/lol.gif

[Blatant]

retard lovers

[Jordon]

Blatant,

First off I said lose the sarcasm. ("oh so original")

Secondly, did you stop to wonder why that opinion isn't original?... Why you've probably heard it so many times?

Thirdly, if you're not ready to talk to me about your opinion, which clearly you aren't, then you shouldn't be posting your opinions publicly.

Just my opinion... (but I'll talk about it to anyone with a bone to pick) graemlins/rofl.gif

[naturalelement]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Hi-Five:
naturalelement,
easy, easy...
I said I WASN'T taking sides... graemlins/lol.gif <hr></blockquote>

dude, nevr said u were takn sides. jst agreein w/ ur analysis...u b easy baby.

blatant...ppl lover. get it?? prolly not.

[Blatant]

im a sarcASStic kinda guy, so sorry, but thats me

i said oh so original cuz it probly took you like 2 seconds to come to that conclusion and think you've cracked some kinda case or some shit.

i've actually never heard that before, becuase i've actually never even had a conversation like this with anyone, at least not a very serious one.

no, i dont get it, fuck thats a complex concept you got goin on over there, both of you, with all kinds of theories and what not.

[ February 02, 2004: Message edited by: Blatant ]</p>

[Jordon]

Well then I guess it was an original theory, no?

[Blatant]

simply becuase no ones ever said that to me before doesnt make it original, now go sit with the retards, comunicate with those on your level.

[Jordon]

Last chance...

If you want to talk seriously, great, let's do it.

If you don't...in the future, you shouldn't post ideas your'e not ready to discuss.

Either way, you wouldn't talk to me the way you are now if we were face to face, so I don't know why being comfortable at a computer should make a difference.

We can still be civil without all the sarcasm and putdowns.

[naturalelement]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Blatant:
simply becuase no ones ever said that to me before doesnt make it original, now go sit with the retards, comunicate with those on your level.<hr></blockquote>

hey asshole, i've had jst bout enough "retard" bashin. gawd damnit, pull ur fukn head out. u obviously dn't knw jack sht bout these ppl. in fact i'm beginning to wondr if u know anythng outside ur closed mind. dvlpmntlly disabled DOES NOT EQUAL STUPID, stupid sht. graemlins/flame.gif

[Blatant]

"you wouldn't talk to me the way you are now if we were face to face"

CLASSIC, keep em coming

first of all, your coming in days late on a topic that has been completely discussed and tryin to get me to speak my 'opinoin' which i have already done. go back and read the topic.

of course we can "still be civil without all the sarcasm and putdowns". but isnt that what bein civil is?

naturalelement, you are the one who is closed minded.

[Jordon]

You're right I jumped in late, but I read the whole thread before I made my first statement so I stand behind that statement.
All you've given me since is... nothing basically.

[Jimmy2times]

boy that got ugly thurr for a second. lets consult gary on this....

gary?

http://maddox.xmission.com/gbs1.jpg


whoa gary isn't playin. guess that was ugly.

[substance]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by naturalelement:
frst, subs, spell much? ooohhh jaybeeish, hahahaa.

blatant, i guess, aftr all the b.s. u spewd on here, i wasn't sure wht was real or wht was sarcasm. imagine tht...on a msg board...nvr....<hr></blockquote>

I'm not substance....I'm creamy jif.....

Yeah I know I misspelled recognize..But fuck it.

Creamy

[Jordon]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Blatant:
"you wouldn't talk to me the way you are now if we were face to face"

CLASSIC, keep em coming<hr></blockquote>

Am I wrong?

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Blatant:
of course we can "still be civil without all the sarcasm and putdowns".<hr></blockquote>

Then why don't we?

[naturalelement]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Blatant:
[QB
naturalelement, you are the one who is closed minded.[/QB]<hr></blockquote>

as i've askd b4...numerous times. plz elaborate dude, cause ths is prolly the frst time in my whole life i've been labld as ths. so come on teachr, teach.

[naturalelement]

k subs, hahahaaa....i'm not calln u a damn peanut buttr. not only tht, how u gonna call urslf creamy...whr the nuts man? ohh tht's rght, short term mem...u ain't got none. ahhahhaaa, ths is fun.

[Blatant]

this is the first time you've asked. numerous times? what the hell

your calling me close minded becuase my views dont match yours. thats funny, your close minded.

[Blatant]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Hi-Five:


Am I wrong?

Then why don't we?<hr></blockquote>

yes

but i just wanna make sure what 'way' im 'talking' to you? just so we understand exactly what we're talkin about here.

[naturalelement]

u tlk bout hi goin bck an readn...take ur own advice.

tht's a real piss poor explanation...elementary. it's ok, u...of all ppl, calln me closed mindd ain't sht.

an the reason i've made commnts bout u is cause ur comin on here w/ some REAL bullsht...cn't go round knockn ppl off dude, tht's real. u, i, hi, creamy, etc...none of us r empowrd enough to make those decisions...who r u?? really, thnk bout it.

the future mothr of ur baby wld die if she evr read ths...can u imagine the stress? the guilt? pressure of perfection. so sad.

[substance]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by naturalelement:
k subs, hahahaaa....i'm not calln u a damn peanut buttr. not only tht, how u gonna call urslf creamy...whr the nuts man? ohh tht's rght, short term mem...u ain't got none. ahhahhaaa, ths is fun.<hr></blockquote>


Read the signature before spatting your mouth.......

[Jordon]

I'm in the middle of my lunch (going cold), doing laundry, and getting ready to go shovel. I don't have time to go through all your quotes. I'm pretty sure you know all the things you said that I'm referring to, but here's one to jog your memory...


<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Blatant:
now go sit with the retards, comunicate with those on your level.<hr></blockquote>

Still feel that way?

[naturalelement]

hahhaa spatting my mouth??? no no...no nuts in the creamy...nope, none. nutless fuk. tongue.gif

[substance]

Close minded.....Funny phrase


Everyone is close minded to some degree....

[Blatant]

thats just what people say when they dont agree with anothers views and just chalk it up to that person bein close minded. a very original reply to make in any situation.

natural e, i was tellin hi five to go back and read the topic becuas he wanted my 'opinoin', and whats the point of typing it all over again?
take my own advice? knock knock! that wasnt advice.

i was simply giving him the oppurtunity to learn about my 'opinoin'.

explanation? i gave you the same explanation you seemed to have based your judgement on.

so hi five, have i offended you? did i hurt your whitle feewings with that cooment?

i'd say whatever face to face, what are you a police officer? you gonna arrest me if i say somethin mean to you? cant take a sarcastic joke?
what do you do when someone makes a joke at your exspense, cry? cry me a fucking river baby.

[ February 02, 2004: Message edited by: Blatant ]</p>

[Jordon]

No, I'm not offended, Blatant.
Everyone on here knows I can be about as sarcastic as it gets (in person). The problem with being sarcastic online is people can't hear your sarcasm. What you type is often taken at face value. I detected all of your sarcasm, I didn't have a problem with that. My problem is that you hide behind your sarcasm. I'll say it again, I read everything you typed before I even said anything to you. I opened with "I'm not taking sides". You just never responded with anything but sarcasm. If we were in the same room together I probably would have realized a lot sooner that you were either:
a) incapable of serious conversation
b) taking a stupid joke too far or
c) a complete moron
and that's pretty much what I meant with the face to face comment. Some people like to hide behind all their sarcasm on-line. It's easy since no one can see your face, and that can be your game. That's cool. It's kind of like the next generation of prank calls. graemlins/lol.gif
Anyway, if anything, I'm sorry I ruffled your feathers and put you in such a defensive position. But now that we've met, at least we'll recognize what one another "look like" next time, right? ;) I ain't mad at 'cha. Take it light.

[Jay Bee LNH]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by naturalelement:
u tlk bout hi goin bck an readn...take ur own advice.
<hr></blockquote>

This is funny.

[Blatant]

hi five, you didnt ruffle my feathers, im just having fun with you. you try to come into an old conversation and expect me to reply with fresh serious conversation about retards when i havent even been very serious from the begining of this, so would i now?

if we were in the same room together for whatever reason that would be, i doubt we'd be discussing retards and their roll in society. i dont know about you but thats not a normal topic of conversation for me.

hey captain obvious, thanks for pointing out that people dont get sarcasm online as much, and the fact that we cant see eachother, im astonished to learn such things.

[Jay Bee LNH]

http://www.dinf.ne.jp/doc/english/global/david/dwe002/dwe002g/dwe00234g01.jpg

[Blatant]

watch out for feeding time, i'll bet that one gets fiesty

[Jordon]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Hi-Five:
a) incapable of serious conversation
b) taking a stupid joke too far or
c) a complete moron
<hr></blockquote>

graemlins/deal.gif

[Jordon]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Thanks for not arguing that one! graemlins/rofl.gif

[Blatant]

^^^^^
a)retarded
b)has hurt feelings
c)feels stupid so he quotes his own posts

[Blatant]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Hi-Five:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Thanks for not arguing that one! graemlins/rofl.gif <hr></blockquote>

whoa you got me

im impressed with the magnitude of your attack on my person.

[imported_Dj_Pseudonym]

http://www.needham.k12.ma.us/high_school/cur/environment/Envir00_01/p6/ISGpd6/chernobyl1_gif.jpg

[KandisKnight]

Pseudo...check ya pm's

[naturalelement]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Jay Bee LNH:
This is funny.<hr></blockquote>

how so smarty?

blatant, quit mixin words bro...u ddn't thnk tht i askd u multiple times to explain wht u meant, whn in fact i did numerous times. so i simply told u to take the 'advice,' or suggestion (bettr word??) tht u gave hi and go bck and read sht again, clear it up??

funny, for some1 who's not takin ths argumnt seriously u sure have postd a lot on the topic. typical, guy tlks sht, guy gets calld out, guy says he's fukn round. same sht, dffrnt day. no one takn responsibility for thr actions. psshhhhh.

[imported_Dj_Pseudonym]

Lets take this to 1000 post kids... graemlins/rofl.gif
graemlins/peace.gif
-PSE

[Blatant]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by naturalelement:


how so smarty?

blatant, quit mixin words bro...u ddn't thnk tht i askd u multiple times to explain wht u meant, whn in fact i did numerous times. so i simply told u to take the 'advice,' or suggestion (bettr word??) tht u gave hi and go bck and read sht again, clear it up??

funny, for some1 who's not takin ths argumnt seriously u sure have postd a lot on the topic. typical, guy tlks sht, guy gets calld out, guy says he's fukn round. same sht, dffrnt day. no one takn responsibility for thr actions. psshhhhh.<hr></blockquote>


ok natural e

well, to put in simple terms, the topic of this thread was about an article in which a man named john harris said that he did not see any distinction between aborting a fully grown unborn baby at 40 weeks and killing a child after it had been born.
i for one was open minded about this idea. you however instantly shunned the idea. thus you are close minded and i am open minded.

as far as this 'advice' you keep bringing up, there was NO advice given. i told hi five that if he wanted my 'opinoin' he could go back and read it. what would i need to go back and read? i wasnt the one tryin to further discuss what has already been discussed.

so becuase i've posted a lot in this thread, that means im takin you or anyone/thing else in this thread completley serious?
who called me out, and why should i be worried about such a thing?
is disagreeing with me calling me out?
if so i guess i called you out also, and a typical girl, you get all over emotional.

now heres some advice, go back and read my posts and tell me you cant sense any bit of humor or sarcasm in my posts, if you cant your just fuckin hopeless.

[ February 03, 2004: Message edited by: Blatant ]</p>

[bobbybrewski]

I agree. Destroy the people that cannot and will not make the world a better place. Start with the homeless, then the drug addicts, then the prisoners, then the retards. Leave only a world of kind, respectful killers that want to better the Earth's population.

This subject is far too vast for discussion.
So all you're going to get from this message board is humorously callous remarks and people like Tif that allow themselves to get really fuckin bent out of shape by it.
Learn some self control.

[naturalelement]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Blatant:
[QB]ok natural e

well, to put in simple terms, the topic of this thread was about an article in which a man named john harris said that he did not see any distinction between aborting a fully grown unborn baby at 40 weeks and killing a child after it had been born.
i for one was open minded about this idea. you however instantly shunned the idea. thus you are close minded and i am open minded.

havin an opinion doesn't make u opn mindd, it simply means tht u have an opinion. duh. nice try tho dude.

as far as this 'advice' you keep bringing up, there was NO advice given. i told hi five that if he wanted my 'opinoin' he could go back and read it. what would i need to go back and read? i wasnt the one tryin to further discuss what has already been discussed.

advice, suggestion whatevr the word, get off it...u told hi to go bck an read whn u thought he wasn't gettn wht u said. i told u to go bck an read bout the 5 or so times i askd u to explain why u were calln me out...get it?? prolly not.

so becuase i've posted a lot in this thread, that means im takin you or anyone/thing else in this thread completley serious?

no, but u postd multiple times an there's no way tht i'll buy tht u've been bullshtin in all of thm. no way man.

who called me out, and why should i be worried about such a thing?

who said u shld worry bout it?? whr do u come up w/ ths sht...ahh yes, distractions.....

is disagreeing with me calling me out?
umm no...again whr r u comin up w/ ths sht?

if so i guess i called you out also, and a typical girl, you get all over emotional.

dude, plz.

now heres some advice, go back and read my posts and tell me you cant sense any bit of humor or sarcasm in my posts, if you cant your just fuckin hopeless.

blah, blah, blah...i thnk hi already covrd ths sht, so i'ma let go.

like i've said in jst bout evry post. bottm line is, u thnk it's alrght to take ppl out cause thy're not wht YOU considr normal. i thnk tht's asinine. case closd. fuk a 1000 posts.

[naturalelement]

hey bobby, damn rght i'ma get bent outta shape bout ths. jst cause it's a msg board doesn't mean i'ma sit bck an read stupid sht. some ppl are actually capable of discussion on serious topics, unlike pissants tht jst use ths as a medium to act like adolescents. like urslf. whoo hooo, bobby, king of contributing worthlss bullsht. supr for u.

[imported_Dj_Pseudonym]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by naturalelement:
fuk a 1000 posts.[/QB]<hr></blockquote>

GEE chill out lady your takin this way to seriously nobodys gonna be killing your kids so just chill. next time I'll think about what I'm posting...
PSE

[Blatant]

well thanks for mashin my post together with yours, how do you expect me to reply to that?

i'll try my best even though you butchered my post.

having an opinoin is having an opinoin, just like you have yours. but an opinoin has nothin to do with bein open minded on a subject. you shunned the idea and anyone who thought opposite of you. that is close minded. if you dont realize that, then i guess the meaning of open/close minded has escaped your grasp.

no, i didnt tell him to read what i thought he wasnt gettin. i told him if he wanted my 'opinoin', that he should go back and read it, cuz i wasnt gonna re-explain everything that i had previously pulled outa my ass. fuck your skull is thick.

a little bit of truth mixed with a little bit of my ass makes for funny shit. at least to me, i dont care if anyone else finds what i posted funny or not, cuz your reaction seems to be the real crowd pleaser. believe what you want, you already do.

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>who said u shld worry bout it?? whr do u come up w/ ths sht...ahh yes, distractions.....<hr></blockquote>

well, you made it sound as if im becoming defensive becuase i was "called out". where do i come up with it? i dont you are the one coming up with everything that is being discussed right now.

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>like i've said in jst bout evry post. bottm line is, u thnk it's alrght to take ppl out cause thy're not wht YOU considr normal. i thnk tht's asinine. case closd. fuk a 1000 posts.<hr></blockquote>

you know me so well, oh wait you dont.

over emotional tif will take us to 1000, c'mon girl YOU CAN DO IT!!

[ February 03, 2004: Message edited by: Blatant ]</p>

[Interest]

I still say we kill 'em all.

Although, I'll probably miss watching the special olympics!
http://www.specialolympics.org/NR/rdonlyres/e4w4o6zxhzmuox3vhvyoml4imskcm2so567dbdt742k37w6f47 6hfc5s3fzzaeyyv4u2ufborucmsfn7wdn4xdl5pkf/compete_default.jpg

[naturalelement]

pse...nothn against u, i was jst expressin my disgust w/ how far ths went...hence fuk 1000 posts. really, i'm not tht upset or overly emotional (good one blatant, nice fall on, original too)...i jst get heavily annoyed by ppl. cn't hlp tht i respect human life-nor do i want too. an i have vry low tolerance for ppl who dn't...who died an made thm _________ ?

nevr said i knw ya dude, nevr. ur def of closd/open mindd is ridiculous, but tht's ok. seens how tht seems to be ur steez.

[Blatant]

nice recovery, dont wanna seem too emotional now.

i have yet to hear your explanation on why im close minded and your open minded, so i'll just assume you dont have one, and enjoy throwing that word around at anyone who disagrees with you.

good day to you.

[Jordon]

Blatant, still against birth defects???


http://www.conjoineddreams.net/photogallery/images/Photo%20Gallery%201/Stwins109.JPG


(Thanks, Mike 2600; You're the BEST!)

[jtwistr]

I'm not sure what to think about that pic?? graemlins/shock.gif

[Interest]

Remember,..It's birth DEFECTS.

Hahaha!

[bobbybrewski]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by naturalelement(the idiot):
dmn rght i'ma gt bnt outta shp bt ths.<hr></blockquote>

Tif, you need to focus your energy on YOUR life.

[naturalelement]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Bobby Brewski:


Tif, you need to focus your energy on YOUR life.<hr></blockquote>

thx booby, ur advice means as mch to me as used toilt ppr.

seens how my life is supr and i'm real happy, i dn't thnk i need to worry bout it.

[bobbybrewski]

u still ain't allowed in my house
dork

[bobbybrewski]

I never said your life was bad. I said you need to focus your energy on YOUR life. Let other people take care of their own business. You ain't the boss you fuckin loser.

[naturalelement]

umm, wldn't wanna come to ur house, puke on front door. hey reTURD, i was sayn i HAVE focusd my energy, hence why i'm happy and lovin life.

fuk outta here...dork.

[OBG]

Obvious guy sez...

Too much sexual tension can be bad!

http://www.ravezone.qc.ca/photos/raves/intense5/angie/Intensepascale+sin.jpg

:D Obviously :D

[naturalelement]

uugggg, obvious dude, i sincerely hope tht ur not implyn thr's "sexual tention" between booby an i...screw pukn on his front door, puke on myslf...grody. graemlins/dead.gif

[Mr. Grouchface]

i dont think i could handle having retarded children or kids with any type of disabilities. send em' to the glue factory or put em for adoption.

i am still lookin for the perfect female specimen that is over six feet tall and got hella game on the ballin court and looks like brooke burke... what i hope to gain from this is either:

1) the perfect NBA basketball player... so i could retire off my children(s) incum.

2) a child more beautiful than myself (hard to accomplish) that will be a top super model that will rake in the cash and bring her super model friends over for daddy to look at.

dolla-dolla-bills-ya'll!!!

[OBG]

Obvious guy sez...

Nothing is better than quelling that deep down love-hate sexual tension.

http://www.zetacreations.com/panda_1.gif

:D Obviously :D

[Jordon]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Asbestos:
i am still lookin for the perfect female specimen that is over six feet tall and got hella game on the ballin court and looks like brooke burke... <hr></blockquote>

Why don't you just find yourself a real cute dude.

[naturalelement]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by ObviousGuy:
Obvious guy sez...

Nothing is better than quelling that deep down love-hate sexual tension.

http://www.zetacreations.com/panda_1.gif

:D Obviously :D <hr></blockquote>

is tht panda takn it in the ass? cause i wldn't do tht. wht bout u booby?

[substance]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by naturalelement:


is tht panda takn it in the ass? cause i wldn't do tht. wht bout u booby?<hr></blockquote>


That's how animals fuck.....

The don't ride or rock the missionary...


Substance

[OBG]

Obvious guy sez...

One quick bang and you kids would be the best of friends...

http://www.benfsinger.com/images/Beppu_2002_Sex_museum_Don_Zebras.jpg

:D Obviously :D