AIDS,SARS? Doesnt anyone care?

[defone]

With this latest outbreak of SARS in Toronto it got me thinking about how AIDS has been almost forgotten about with press, government and people.
The numbers of AIDS is still as high as ever especially with black males and teenagers both gay and straight. Yet we are all talking about Mad Cow or SARS. What about AIDS???
What happened to the education of the people and the prevention?
While we are on the subject lets talk about AIDS and SARS are these diseases godmade or manman, is this the end times or population control?
And how is Magic Johnson still running around?

[Cameron]

Where ever they came from they are messed up.

I think the media is just caught up in that scare tactic thing and alot of the focus is on "What's gonna getcha next", the "micro-monster" lurking around the corner, the killer african bees! You know kind of what Bowling For Columbine was speaking to about the media bugging everyone out.

I think there should definetly be more concern on AIDS/HIV.

Shout!

[Jay Bee]

Comparing these two is ridiculous. AIDS is overwhelmingly a disease of gays and poors and was never a serious issue for moral Americans.

[naturalelement]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Jay Bee:
Comparing these two is ridiculous. AIDS is overwhelmingly a disease of gays and poors and was never a serious issue for moral Americans.<hr></blockquote>

pls stop playin dik. seriously some stuff should not be fckd w/.

also, women make up almost half of those w/ aids. it's not just gays, it's not poor people, it's not just minorities either. aids messes w/ us yall, so just protect your sht.

[Hollywood]

http://www.msnbc.com/news/885653.asp?vts=050120030715&cp1=1

[substance]

Both are completely man made....If you don't think so you should think harder.Bio chemical agents to the fullest......

Magic Johnson is still running around because he has the money point blank...THe average citizen doesn't have millions to through toward it....Magic Johnson is still making money that would turn a gay man straight.......

The reason I think no one talks about aids is becsue they think it won't happento them....Don't ask don't tell......

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[Hype*]

behold a pale white horse...

[substance]

What lars said...own it,live it love it....

Substance

[a_money]

The thing about SARS is that it's both easily transmitted and almost instantly debilitating, though not fatal (5% fatality rate, last I checked). Imagine if some longshoreman from Long Beach caught it from a Hong Kong based ship crew, it spreads fast enough to shut down ports and public spaces within a week or so.

The reason no one talks about AIDS is that the crisis is over. We all know how its transmitted and how the virus works, and even though it's 100% fatal, if you get it now it's most likely your own damn fault. Put a sock on the pickle or use some clean needles.

Man made? Are you kidding??!?! While I know people are capable of some shady shit, viruses like these have been around forever: the plague, flu, polio, smallpox. The number of people killed by AIDS is nothing compared to the Black Plague or global flu epidemics from the past. The difference now is that no one is ever less than 24 hours away from anyone else. Diseases spread globally, where before they would have been confined to where they started. The reason the poor/minorities get these diseases more often is a combination of cultural and economic factors that put them on the shit end of the stick in general. Saying that the CIA made AIDS is like the idea that the war in Iraq was about oil: if people wanted to control that oil or keep people down, there are a million smarter, sneakier ways to do it.

a$

[berg1115]

Aaron Money: ...The reason no one talks about AIDS is that the crisis is over. We all know how its transmitted and how the virus works, and even though it's 100% fatal, if you get it now it's most likely your own damn fault. Put a sock on the pickle or use some clean needles.

Umm actually there's a little thing called the AIDS Pandemic in sub Saharan Africa. Something like 50% of the adult populations in some of these countries have AIDS or the HIV virus. The reason we hear very little about this huge crisis is that #1 its happening in Africa and #2 our exposure to international news issues is almost nil.

[a_money]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Fresh Nastie:
Umm actually there's a little thing called the AIDS Pandemic in sub Saharan Africa. Something like 50% of the adult populations in some of these countries have AIDS or the HIV virus. The reason we hear very little about this huge crisis is that #1 its happening in Africa and #2 our exposure to international news issues is almost nil.<hr></blockquote>

Yes, but this isn't new or a mystery to anyone. Nigerian truckers don't wear condoms. Addicts in Capetown don't use clean needles. We all know why this is happening, but people aren't working to prevent it. That's not a crisis, it's a public health problem. When no one knew about AIDS, when it was killing people quickly and mysteriously and people were getting it from blood transfusions, that was a crisis. Now it's a big problem, but not a crisis.

a$

[Passing Glimpse]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Aaron Money:
The reason no one talks about AIDS is that the crisis is over.

We all know how its transmitted and how the virus works, and even though it's 100% fatal, if you get it now it's most likely your own damn fault.

The number of people killed by AIDS is nothing compared to the Black Plague or global flu epidemics from the past.<hr></blockquote>

So the crisis isn't over, it's just been swept under the rug for people like you to think that it's over. The education on this disease isn't there anymore in schools where it needs to be.

I also think that comparing Aids to past epidemics from centuries ago is not intelligent.
Those people didn't have the technology or equipment that we have now. There fore knocking people off left and right.

As for the government making up the diseases, it could be possible....population control!

[a_money]

A crisis implies that the spread of a disease is out of control, that people are at high risk by doing things they may normally do or that the method of transmission is unkown.
SARS is a crisis. AIDS is not.
In MN, a state of over 5 million people, has about 5,000 reported cases of HIV/AIDS-a tenth of a percent of the population. Most new cases are in a handful of groups: East African immigrants, IV drug users, men who sleep with men. These populations engage in risky practices or aren't educated about simple means of prevention. That's not a crisis, it's a public health problem. No one is sweeping anything under the rug. No one is jumping to solve the problem either, but that doesn't make it a crisis.

Here's another government-sponsored means of population control: poverty, income taxes and unemployment. Did you know the federal government's fiscal policy MANDATES that a percentage of Americans be out of work at all times? That taxes on the lower tier of income earners almost guarantee they can't send their kids to college? The government doesn't need an uncontrollable disease when they can validate economic discrimination and preserve economic stratification. It's cheaper.

- Prof. Money

[berg1115]

I still disagree. It's not just the health of the public that is at risk but the structure of their society as a whole that is being destroyed. For me that equals a crisis. Labelling AIDS a "public health problem" demphasizes the real damage that AIDS is doing in Africa where 2.2 million of the 3 million AIDS deaths worldwide occured in 2001. Also there are another 30 million people infected right now, the vast majority of whom are under the age of 30. 10 million children have been left orphaned by AIDS. The youth, the future are dying off These numbers keep on rising every year. Just because we in America have the disease "under control" doesn't mean that the rest of the world is educated as to how it is spread. In 2000, Thabo Mbeki the President of South Africa said he thought HIV/AIDS was a myth. With this kind of attitude from regional leadership it is not wonder why people haven't been educated as to what the disease actually is and how it spreads. There is also a huge social stigma that goes along with the disease so few people in sub Saharan Africa actually get tested and take steps to protect themselves and others. These are just the cold hard facts, a continent is at risk and certainly any reputable public health official would agree that AIDS is more than a health issue but a real crisis that threatens the vitality of a continent. A public health problem is pay phones spreading the common cold, a crisis is millions of people dying every year.

Just my 3 cents

Dr. Knowledge

[Jay Bee]

&gt;That taxes on the lower tier of income earners almost guarantee they can't send their kids to college?

This is absolutely ridiculous and completely unfounded.

As for AIDS, if you're not living in a third world country, a queerbait, or an ill fucked up drug user, I'd be more concerned about lightning striking me than AIDS.

[a_money]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Jay Bee:
&gt;That taxes on the lower tier of income earners almost guarantee they can't send their kids to college?

This is absolutely ridiculous and completely unfounded.

As for AIDS, if you're not living in a third world country, a queerbait, or an ill fucked up drug user, I'd be more concerned about lightning striking me than AIDS.<hr></blockquote>

Jay Bee, the Charlton Heston of this rap shit.
:D

AIDS in Africa=problem, maybe a crisis. The solution is there, no one is following it. People aren't dying from the disease, they're dying from poor leadership that lets it spread.
AIDS in America=public health problem, not a crisis.
George Bush's tax cuts=crisis.

a$

[SonRa]

How does leadership let it spread? Besides handing out contraceptives and cleaning lab needles ( and possibly getting the needles off the street)? I mean theres even a few more things they could do but could they truly stop ot from speading? ( maybe it can but to me it seems out of control.

[mikus]

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[actafist]

Ignorance of the youth is how it spreads, everyone thinks they cant get it.

[SonRa]

Actafist your very right. That definetly is one of the main reasons.