Jay Bee
2003-05-27, 08:42 PM
These faggots want to change shit.. but, actually I think this is fine. Will be interesting to see who has the signs in they place. The fact of the matter is, it aint stopping me, because the only result per my discussions with my crim. defense attorneys is that you'd get a potential criminal trespassing charge... which in a plea is going away anyway, so fuck it.
The hot thing = concealed just means not pulled out. You can have a fucking holster with the heat in plain view, strapped to your leg.
Wak thing = drankin, you can be ax'd to leave.
No matter, its a good thing. "bang, bang"
Sponsors plan to make last minute change in gun bill
Patrick Howe, Associated Press
Published May 28, 2003 GUNS28
A day before it goes into effect, sponsors of a new handgun permit law plan to make changes to it, House Speaker Steve Sviggum said today.
The change would allow a business or church to simply post a sign if they want to keep handguns out of their buildings.
As the law is now written, someone would have to verbally tell people, in addition to posting a sign, that they don't want anyone carrying concealed guns in the building. Only then would state trespass laws kick in.
After the change, a sign would be sufficient.
``I think there is a legitimate mistake that was made,'' said Sviggum, R-Kenyon. He said the sponsors of the bill in the House and the Senate have agreed to the changes.
Sviggum said he expects the changes to pass today, and that the governor would sign the revision.
The proposal follows comments made by the governor and top aides Monday voicing concerns over that portion of the law, which he called ``burdensome.''
It also follows a recent lawsuit over the provision filed by an Edina church.
``It's a simple change, from 'and' to 'or','' Sviggum said. ``I will tell you up front it was drafted wrong.''
If the bill is passed by the House and Senate today, the change would be in place by the time the law takes effect Wednesday, Sviggum said.
On Monday, Pawlenty chief of staff, Charlie Weaver, called the challenged part of the new law ``unwise'' and said the administration was open to revisions.
The law is expected to increase the number of permits to carry a pistol in public from about 12,000 currently to as many as 90,000 in a few years. The Legislature approved the bill in April and Pawlenty signed the legislation within hours of it landing on his desk.
Law enforcement officials will be required to issue ``conceal and carry'' permits to all applicants 21 or older who meet standards of U.S. citizenship, handgun safety training and a criminal and mental-health background check. Previously, police chiefs and sheriffs had broad discretion to grant or deny permits for occupational needs or personal protection.
DFL lawmakers gathered at a Minneapolis park today with petitions to repeal the entire law. They had 600 signatures already.
``We don't need to fix up this bill,'' said Nora Slawik, DFL-Maplewood. Instead it needs to be repealed, she said.
Slawik said that the apparent willingness of the bill's sponsors to open it up for changes was a good sign, but it should have been done before the bill the passed the first time.
Weaver said he thinks there is ``a lot of hysteria'' over the new law, but he didn't consider it perfect either.
``Some of the stuff they did in there was unwise,'' Weaver said.
An Edina church already has sued over the notification requirements, arguing they intrude on religious affairs, and other churches have joined it.
Separately, a few county boards and court officials have moved to ban guns on their property even though the law allows permit holders to carry them there in some instances.
The hot thing = concealed just means not pulled out. You can have a fucking holster with the heat in plain view, strapped to your leg.
Wak thing = drankin, you can be ax'd to leave.
No matter, its a good thing. "bang, bang"
Sponsors plan to make last minute change in gun bill
Patrick Howe, Associated Press
Published May 28, 2003 GUNS28
A day before it goes into effect, sponsors of a new handgun permit law plan to make changes to it, House Speaker Steve Sviggum said today.
The change would allow a business or church to simply post a sign if they want to keep handguns out of their buildings.
As the law is now written, someone would have to verbally tell people, in addition to posting a sign, that they don't want anyone carrying concealed guns in the building. Only then would state trespass laws kick in.
After the change, a sign would be sufficient.
``I think there is a legitimate mistake that was made,'' said Sviggum, R-Kenyon. He said the sponsors of the bill in the House and the Senate have agreed to the changes.
Sviggum said he expects the changes to pass today, and that the governor would sign the revision.
The proposal follows comments made by the governor and top aides Monday voicing concerns over that portion of the law, which he called ``burdensome.''
It also follows a recent lawsuit over the provision filed by an Edina church.
``It's a simple change, from 'and' to 'or','' Sviggum said. ``I will tell you up front it was drafted wrong.''
If the bill is passed by the House and Senate today, the change would be in place by the time the law takes effect Wednesday, Sviggum said.
On Monday, Pawlenty chief of staff, Charlie Weaver, called the challenged part of the new law ``unwise'' and said the administration was open to revisions.
The law is expected to increase the number of permits to carry a pistol in public from about 12,000 currently to as many as 90,000 in a few years. The Legislature approved the bill in April and Pawlenty signed the legislation within hours of it landing on his desk.
Law enforcement officials will be required to issue ``conceal and carry'' permits to all applicants 21 or older who meet standards of U.S. citizenship, handgun safety training and a criminal and mental-health background check. Previously, police chiefs and sheriffs had broad discretion to grant or deny permits for occupational needs or personal protection.
DFL lawmakers gathered at a Minneapolis park today with petitions to repeal the entire law. They had 600 signatures already.
``We don't need to fix up this bill,'' said Nora Slawik, DFL-Maplewood. Instead it needs to be repealed, she said.
Slawik said that the apparent willingness of the bill's sponsors to open it up for changes was a good sign, but it should have been done before the bill the passed the first time.
Weaver said he thinks there is ``a lot of hysteria'' over the new law, but he didn't consider it perfect either.
``Some of the stuff they did in there was unwise,'' Weaver said.
An Edina church already has sued over the notification requirements, arguing they intrude on religious affairs, and other churches have joined it.
Separately, a few county boards and court officials have moved to ban guns on their property even though the law allows permit holders to carry them there in some instances.